DANNY'S 6 YEARS OF NOTES
 

Many destructive cults forbid their followers to join military service they don't want members to be indoctrinated by 'another' boot camp.
 
Get away from the cult milieu and into the marine corp and you find out they are some *normal* good buddies and you don't need cult teachings anymore.
 
Bye bye cult
 
 
 
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 Jehovah's Witnesses are  obnoxious religious fanatics they don't clean up their act they just shoot the messengers and rant on with Bible quotations.
They say Hitler hated us so we must be the truth.
 
Hitler hated EVERYBODY he was stopped by the Allies NOT Jehovah's Witnesses as matter of fact the leader of Jehovah's Witnesses Joseph Rutherford at first was a Hitler supporter.

Google: Jehovah Witnesses Rutherford Hitler
 
 
 
 
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 Jehovah's Witnesses are considered a dangerous cult in many European countries and definitely under investigation because governments are concerned by the mind manipulation, child molestation cover-ups, breaking up of families due to shunning, as well as other atrocities taking place within the religion.

Victims of Watchtower hard-line organizational policies are speaking up to government officials about their experiences and they are responding with assistance.
 
 
 

 
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Jehovah's Witnesses need to believe that they are the True religion and they only believe this because they think they are special and the ONLY ones persecuted.
Persecute them enough, and you could get them to obey anything except denounce their faith.
This was why JWs were the lackeys in the concentration camps. AS long as you did not ask them to go against their Bible you could get them to do absolutely anything as they are brainwashed into obedience to the state!


 
 Google: Jehovah Witnesses Rutherford Hitler
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 anony
 
   I have no sympathy for those who don't serve their country. There were many in Germany who didn't fight, you see what happened to them. If you were waiting for God to reach down and get you out of that mess he didn't do it for the **** he won't do it for jw or any other faith. You see God gave us each other, and am I my brother's keeper, I think so. If you can't be brave and stand up for yourself, why should anyone else. Yellow bellies, plain and simple to me.
 
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JW organization definitely does pose a danger, not only to national states, but also to the psychological well being of their citizens. The reason for this is that the principle teaching of JW's, is that all modern day states must eventually come to an end.
According to Jehovah's Witnesses, this destruction of modern day states, will be necessary in order for a global Watchtower society JW government to eventually rule the world. This, JW's claim, is Gods will, and it does not take much to realise that, in view of their beliefs, that it is unavoidable that JW's will support any action or sequence of events that will bring their prophecy to fruition.
The future sequence of events that JW's believe will take place according to their Biblical prophecy, is that in the very near future every religious organization, except theirs, will be destroyed, by the military political branches of every state, this will be followed by a war, in which their "God", fighting on the side of their religious organization, will in turn bring an end to every political state. It doesn't take a lot to conclude that JW's are not only enemies of every other religion, but also of every political state.
Although JW's claim to be conscientious objectors and will not fight a war on the side of any political state, they are not anti-war, and will be well prepared to fight a war on their "Gods" side, against any political state, if called upon, by their "God", to do so, in the future. I feel they they definitely do pose a threat, as a doomsday cult.
 
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 Jehovah's Witnesses UN hypocrisy.
The Watchtower Society took a conflicting stand with regard to the United Nations, claiming that it is the “wild beast” of Revelation that leads all nations in a fight against God and Christ at Armageddon, but signing on as an NGO member and publishing articles that present the UN in a favorable light. Reaping the whirlwind'{ Hosea 8:7 }Jehovah's Witnesses usually don't meddle in local politics,they did hook up with the World UN for political advantage,they are not a peaceful body,the Watchtower Society leadership is an oppressive cruel high control cult to followers.Moreover,they believe in the imminent Armageddon deaths of all 6 billion of the world's population who are non members.So,this does make them an extremist group?
 
 
 
 
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Earthgranny
 
 
In Soviet Russia, and today in so many countries of the world,  Jehovah's Witnesses are prosecuted and forbidden to practice. 
 
What a safe haven they have in the United States, where anyone is free to disseminate any religious poppycock imaginable, and get a tax-exemption to boot.
 A cult becomes mainstream when its adherents bring in big bucks, and when the public gets used to seeing them around, the mind-control menace of the cult is overlooked. 
 
 Witnesses don't vote or participate in civic responsibilities,  but they sure won't pass up their tax breaks.
 
 
 
 
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HIGH CONTROL GROUP
 
To even vocally question the teachings of the Watchtower Jehovah's Witnesses will result in complete cutting off, with family and friends usually being forbidden to talk to them.

The Watchtower is a truly Orwellian world.

Danny Haszard  
http://www.dannyhaszard.com
 
Russian translation
 
 
 
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 6 Million Jews
3 Million Poles
400,000 Gypsies
50,000-100,000 Homosexuals
150,000 Disabled Germans
 
Nobody ever mentions that Hitler rounded up all the Masons many of them Catholics and had them killed.The only Masons who survived didn't have their name on the rolls at the Grand lodge in Berlin. I think it was over 30,000 Masons that were murdered- they never got imprisoned, but killed  outright, as Hitler feared them.
Many leaders of various resistance groups compromised,individuals maintained integrity.
The Jehovah's Witnesses leader Joseph Rutherford also initially sought favor with Hitler,but when Hitler double-crossed him he drove  his own followers to be martyrs.
Millions of Slavs, Russians, Socialist, Catholics, Protestants.
 
 

MORE Facts
 
 Google: Jehovah Witnesses Rutherford Hitler
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Best OVERALL quickie
 
 
 
 
 6 Million Jews
3 Million Poles
400,000 Gypsies
50,000-100,000 Homosexuals
150,000 Disabled Germans
Millions of Slavs, Russians, Socialist, Catholics, Protestants.
 5,000-6,000 Gay & Lesbian perished in the camps
 
The vast majority of Holocaust victims — nearly 6 million, according to estimates — were Jews.
 
But there were other victims, too — Communists and socialists, who were persecuted for political reasons who were deemed insufficiently devoted to the Nazi cause;
Slavs and gypsies, who were considered racially inferior; and homosexuals, who were attacked both for their sexual orientation and for not doing enough to further Hitler’s dream of creating an Aryan master race.
 
 
Once arrested, accused homosexuals had roughly a one-in-three chance of being convicted and sent to prison. From there, many were sent to concentration camps, where they were often given the most grueling and dangerous jobs. Convicted homosexuals were also forced to wear pink triangles on their prison uniforms — a move intended to subject them to further abuse at the hands of fellow inmates
 
 
 
 6 Million Jews
3 Million Poles
400,000 Gypsies
50,000-100,000 Homosexuals
150,000 Disabled Germans
Millions of Slavs, Russians, Socialist, Catholics, Protestants.

MORE Facts
 
 
 
5,000-6,000 Gay & Lesbian perished in the camps

The vast majority of Holocaust victims — nearly 6 million, according to estimates — were Jews.

But there were other victims, too — Communists and socialists, who were persecuted for political reasons; Jehovah’s Witnesses, who were deemed insufficiently devoted to the Nazi cause; Slavs and gypsies, who (like the Jews) were considered racially inferior; and homosexuals, who were attacked both for their sexual orientation and for not doing enough to further Hitler’s dream of creating an Aryan master race.

Though homosexuality was technically illegal during this period, police often looked the other way, especially in larger cities. That, in turn, gave rise to a lively gay and lesbian social scene, mainly centered around same-sex bars and nightclubs.

Once arrested, accused homosexuals had roughly a one-in-three chance of being convicted and sent to prison. From there, many were sent to concentration camps, where they were often given the most grueling and dangerous jobs. Convicted homosexuals were also forced to wear pink triangles on their prison uniforms — a move intended to subject them to further abuse at the hands of fellow inmates

 A Common Bond
http://www.gayxjw.org/
ALL PURPOSE GOODIE
 
 Some of the Jehovah's Witnesses leaders like Joseph Rutherford did compromise integrity.
 
Individual Jehovah's Witnesses like Engleitner are proud of their record resisting Hitler and his Nazi.
 
God bless them all!
 
 
 6 Million Jews
3Million Poles
400,000 Gypies
50,000-100,000 Homosexuals
150,000 Disabled Germans
Millions of Slavs, Russians, Socialist, Catholics, Protestants.
 The whole world suffered.
 BELOW 3 SO FAR ON WT REVISONIST FILLIPINO BLOG
 
 Mark Smith
 
 
 
 
Nobody ever mentions that Hitler rounded up all the Masons and had them killed, either. The only Masons who survived didn't have their name on the rolls at the Grand lodge in Belin. I think it was over 30,000 Masons that were murdered- they never got imprsoned, but killed  outright, as Hitler feared them.
 

Franz Weinstein1:37 am

I am not a Holocaust denier.but there were not that many Jehovah's Witnesses around in 1939 this could be Watchtower Society propaganda to exaggerate their claims of immaculate integrity keepers of WW2.
 

Franz Weinstein1:41 am


6 Million Jews
3 Million Poles
400,000 Gypsies
50,000-100,000 Homosexuals
150,000 Disabled Germans
Millions of Slavs, Russians, Socialist, Catholics, Protestants.

MORE Facts http://www.bible.ca/jw-penton-3rdreich.htm
 
The Watchtower society thrives on persecution just like all cults.
The JW get profiled as immaculate integrity keepers which they were NOT.

 
 Jehovah's Witness leaders sympathized with Hitler
The Jehovah's Witnesses are proud of their war-record, and are today writing articles about how they were the only church resisting Hitler and his Nazi .
 
 
If "persecution" during the Nazi era proves that a religion is true, then the Jews must really be the true religion.
 
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The Watchtower society thrives on persecution just like all cults.
The JW get profiled as immaculate integrity keepers which they were NOT.
http://www.randytv.com/Hitler/watchtower_hitler...
 
 
If "persecution" during the Nazi era proves that a religion is true, then the Jews must really be the true religion.
 
 
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Just to put things in perspective, during the Nazi regime, 6,019 JWs were arrested. Of those, 2,000 were put into concentration camps. Of those, 635 died. Of those, 203 had actually been executed. (1974 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, p. 212)

Therefore, their "holocaust" is 1/100th of 1% that of the Jews. (6,000,000 / 635 = 0.0001)

Is this any more than the percentage of the German population (of ANY faith) who didn't support the Nazis?
 
 
 
 
 
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If "persecution" during the Nazi era proves that a religion is true, then the Jews must really be the true religion.
 
Danny Haszard born 1957 as a 3rd generation Jehovah's Witness (I used to be drilled/indoctrinated as a JW child with Watchtower cult propaganda scare tales sbout how I needed to be as strong as the JW's in the nazi camps who "licked the dust off of  prison walls" and "drank their own urine" to survive.)
 
 
 
 
 6 Million Jews
3Million Poles
400,000 Gypies
50,000-100,000 Homosexuals
150,000 Disabled Germans
Millions of Slavs, Russians, Socialist, Catholics, Protestants.
 The whole world suffered.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Lots of religions are conscious objectors not just Jehovah's Witnesses.
 
Jehovah's Witnesses defenders will highlight that they,"don't kill in war" none the less this is deceiving as they have just as much criminal activity as any other Fundy group maybe more because they cover it up.

Thousands maybe tens of thousands of been 'martyred' for refusing whole blood transfusions all over a man made rule that is unfairly applied.

They have virtually no public charities like food pantries,soup kitchens,hospitals or schools but billions in real estate that is tax free.

They have their good points too BUT that is all they want us to hear when they come knocking.

 
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Trevor S on UN united nations nazi persecution flag DRAFT
Adapt some more

As for Jehovah's Witnesses and other minority sects like them, they are often in opposition to governments. Their members don't join the military, and are discouraged from taking on alternative service in countries where conscription is in operation. They have no particular respect for any government, despite any claims they make otherwise. In short, their stance is an unpopular one with some governments, and while I hate to see discrimination on the grounds of belief directed against any group, it's easy to understand why some governments can become frustrated by the Watchtower's blatant disregard for their authority.
 
 
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Jehovah's Witnesses don't go to war,they just let everybody else fight for them.
 

Jehovah's Witnesses conscientious objector flip-flop
 
 
 Christians who object to military service as conscientious objectors are offered the option of National Alternative Service to work in various fields such as forestry, parks, hospitals etc. Young men were at liberty to choose, but the choice of Alternative Service for JW men, carried with it the automatic disqualification to be viewed a JW in good standing, (disfellowshipped) subject to rejection and shunning by the Witness community, family and friends, with no hope of a resurrection.
 
 Consequently, the refusal of young JW men to accept Alternative Service resulted in an automatic prison term of several years in penal institutions. This resulted in leaving jobs and, if married, leaving unsupported family and children, being separated for years. Then in May 1996, WT reversed its policy leaving the decision up to the individual’s conscience (as it should be), no longer resulting in an automatic disassociation (disfellowshipped). These questions beg an answer: why was this policy maintained for decades resulting in needless imprisonment? Alternative Service, a disfellowshipping sin for decades prior to May 1996, was no longer a crime against God after that date? After men had languished in prisons for years
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I find it disturbing that a 103 year old JW and a sensitive topic is being used to promote a religion that terrorized me growing up as a small child in the JW faith on how all these same horrific 'persecutions' were awaiting me in the final great tribulation.
The Watchtower society thrives on persecution just like all cults.
The JW get profiled as immaculate integrity keepers which they were NOT.

http://www.randytv.com/Hitler/watchtower_hitler...
 
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5,000-6,000 Gay & Lesbian perished in the camps

The vast majority of Holocaust victims — nearly 6 million, according to estimates — were Jews.

But there were other victims, too — Communists and socialists, who were persecuted for political reasons; Jehovah’s Witnesses, who were deemed insufficiently devoted to the Nazi cause; Slavs and gypsies, who (like the Jews) were considered racially inferior; and homosexuals, who were attacked both for their sexual orientation and for not doing enough to further Hitler’s dream of creating an Aryan master race.

Though homosexuality was technically illegal during this period, police often looked the other way, especially in larger cities. That, in turn, gave rise to a lively gay and lesbian social scene, mainly centered around same-sex bars and nightclubs.

Once arrested, accused homosexuals had roughly a one-in-three chance of being convicted and sent to prison. From there, many were sent to concentration camps, where they were often given the most grueling and dangerous jobs. Convicted homosexuals were also forced to wear pink triangles on their prison uniforms — a move intended to subject them to further abuse at the hands of fellow inmates

 A Common Bond
http://www.gayxjw.org/
 
Jehovah's Witnesses camp deaths
 
Comparisons,300-700 Jehovah's Witnesses perished in the camps,5,000 gays died and 5-6 million Jews.
 
6 Million Jews
3Million Poles
400,000 Gypies
50,000-100,000 Homosexuals
150,000 Disabled Germans
Millions of Slavs, Russians, Socialist, Catholics, Protestants.
2,500-5,000 JW's
Many, many more suffered than just the JW's. The whole world suffered.
 
 Jehovah's Witness leaders sympathized with Hitler
The Jehovah's Witnesses are proud of their war-record, and are today writing articles about how they were the only church resisting Hitler and his Nazi ...
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Posted by Anony on 12/6/2008, 2:45 am, in reply to "Re: Jehovah's Witnesses RANTINGS"



Since the end of World War II, leaders of the Jehovah's Witness movement in both Germany and elsewhere have steadfastly argued that Witnesses were united in their opposition to Nazism and did not collude with the Third Reich.

Documents have been uncovered, however, that prove otherwise. Using materials from Witness archives, the U.S. State Department, Nazi files, and other sources, M. James Penton demonstrates that while many ordinary German Witnesses were brave in their opposition to Nazism, their leaders were quite prepared to support the Hitler government.

Penton begins his study with a close reading of the "Declaration of Facts" released by the Witnesses at a Berlin convention in June 1933. Witness leaders have called the document a protest against Nazi persecution, however closer examination shows it contained bitter attacks on Great Britain and the United States – jointly referred to as "the greatest and most oppressive empire on earth" – the League of Nations, big business, and above all, Jews, who are referred to as "the representatives of Satan the Devil."

It was later, in 1933 – when the Nazis would not accept Witness blandishments – that leader J.F. Rutherford called on Witnesses to seek martyrdom by carrying on a campaign of passive resistance. Many ultimately died in prisons and concentration camps, and postwar Witness leaders have attempted to use this fact to assert that Jehovah's Witnesses stood consistently against Nazism.

Drawing on his own Witness background and years of research on Witness history, Penton separates fact from fiction during this dark period.

About the Author
M. James Penton is a professor emeritus in the Department of History at the University of Lethbridge.

Can we trust The Watchtower's explanation
about their relations to Hitler?
1934 Yearbook: Watchtower agrees with 'Principles advocated by German government'

http://www.randytv.com/Hitler/watchtower_hitler.htm Go here mega info on the Watchtower and the Nazis
 
 
 
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You can call the Christian members of the armed forces hypocrites for killing,but there are plenty of COs from catholic, protestant or other backgrounds, this isn't unique to JWs.
 
Jehovah's Witnesses don't go to war,they just let everybody else fight for THEIR FREEDOMS.

 
Jehovah's Witnesses and WW 2 Nazi 'persecution'
 
 
Danny Haszard born 1957 as a 3rd generation Jehovah's Witness (I used to be drilled/indoctrinated as a JW child with Watchtower cult propaganda scare tales sbout how I needed to be as strong as the JW's in the nazi camps who "licked the dust off of  prison walls" and "drank their own urine" to survive.)
 
Jehovah's Witnesses don't go to war,they just let everybody else fight for them.
 
For the record it is true that Jehovah's Witnesses will not fight for their country and they didn't fight 'against' Hitler either.They were interned in Nazi concentration camps that were then liberated by young allied men who died to set them free.
Note:JW's didn't support the Allies either and despise the same (worldly) governments that protect their freedoms.
Danny Haszard-tell the truth don't be afraid www.dannyhaszard.com
 Danny Haszard born 1957 as a 3rd generation Jehovah's Witness (I used to be drilled/indoctrinated as a JW child with Watchtower cult propaganda scare tales sbout how I needed to be as strong as the JW's in the nazi camps who "licked the dust off of  prison walls" and "drank their own urine" to survive.)
 
 
 
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Jehovah's Witnesses camp deaths
 
Comparisons,300-700 Jehovah's Witnesses perished in the camps,5,000 gays died and 5-6 million Jews.
http://www.randytv.com/Hitler/watchtower_hitler.htm Watchtower and the Nazis.
http://www.bible.ca/jw-penton-3rdreich.htm
-Danny Haszard 
 
 
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Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Third Reich: Sectarian Politics Under ...
Jehovahs Witnesses and the Third Reich: Sectarian Politics Under Persecution Buy this book and support this site! Click here.
www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/
 
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The watchtower was printing that the end was on its way in the height of world war 2. Its sad if you think of many followers that martyred themselves in German prison camps just to be humiliated by Rutherford's anti semitic rants.
 
Anony
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http://www.topix.net/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/T7U1R7FF3FB4970V9
 
 
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http://www.topix.net/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/T7U1R7FF3FB4970V9
 

Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Third Reich: Sectarian Politics Under ... Jehovah\'s Witnesses and the Third Reich: Sectarian Politics Under Persecution Buy this book and support this site! Click here.
www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/.

Since the end of World War II, leaders of the Jehovah's Witness movement in both Germany and elsewhere have steadfastly argued that Witnesses were united in their opposition to Nazism and did not collude with the Third Reich. Documents have been uncovered, however, that prove otherwise. Using materials from Witness archives, the U.S. State Department, Nazi files, and other sources, M. James Penton demonstrates that while many ordinary German Witnesses were brave in their opposition to Nazism, their leaders were quite prepared to support the Hitler government.
 
Penton begins his study with a close reading of the "Declaration of Facts" released by the Witnesses at a Berlin convention in June 1933. Witness leaders have called the document a protest against Nazi persecution, however closer examination shows it contained bitter attacks on Great Britain and the United States – jointly referred to as "the greatest and most oppressive empire on earth" – the League of Nations, big business, and above all, Jews, who are referred to as "the representatives of Satan the Devil."
It was later, in 1933 – when the Nazis would not accept Witness blandishments – that leader J.F. Rutherford called on Witnesses to seek martyrdom by carrying on a campaign of passive resistance. Many ultimately died in prisons and concentration camps, and postwar Witness leaders have attempted to use this fact to assert that Jehovah's Witnesses stood consistently against Nazism.
Drawing on his own Witness background and years of research on Witness history, Penton separates fact from fiction during this dark period.
About the Author
M. James Penton is a professor emeritus in the Department of History at the University of Lethbridge. 
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http://www.statesmanjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080514/COMMUNITIES/805140363/1117/NEWS
 
It took about 15 volunteers 2 1/2 hours to set up the flags on Thursday evening," said Werner University Center Student Leadership Activities Director Jon Tucker. "We placed 27,660 flags on our campus with each flag representing 500 people killed during the Holocaust. Each color of the flags represented a different group of people that was murdered."
 
A close look at the flag categorization and representation is staggering: 8,534 yellow flags, Jewish adults; 3,500 small yellow flags, Jewish children; 1,000 brown flags, Roma and Sinti (gypsies); 30 pink flags, homosexuals; six white flags, Jehovah's Witnesses; 550 orange flags, mentally/physically disabled; 6,600 red flags, Soviet prisoners of war; 6,000 blue flags, Polish Catholics; 40 lime flags, Spanish republicans; 1,400 green flags, Serbians.
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JERRY JONES
 
Could someone please tell me why there has not been a 'Holocaust' newspaper article published anywhere in the United States in the past 20 years which does not mention that Jehovah's Witnesses were also persecuted by the Nazis in Germany in the 1930s and 1940s?

The Nazis persecuted 'anyone' and 'everyone' who did not believe as they did, so the list of Nazi opposers could potentially be endless. Thus, my question again.

Could someone please tell me why there has not been a 'Holocaust' newspaper article published anywhere in the United States in the past 20 years which does not mention that Jehovah's Witnesses were also persecuted by the Nazis in Germany in the 1930s and 1940s?

Does the WatchTower Society financially support the various Holocaust museums and groups in the United States and Europe in order to assure that this religious cult gets 'good PR' out of this tragic event?

Everyone knows that approximately 6,000,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Nazis, and many more suffered from lesser 'persecution'.

According to this article, 100,000 homosexuals were 'persecuted', and the number slaughtered may have been as many as 15,000.

Now, compare those statistics with the Jehovah's Witness. There were only 6000 JWs in Germany during that time period, and while many were arrested, only 2-300 lost their lives, and the vast majority of such died from various causes rather than being executed.

Those deaths, few though they may be when compared with the groups who lost thousands to execution, are tragic. But, that is not the point. The point is why does every single Holocaust article lump the JWs into the mix as if they were some significant part of the story?

Jehovah's Witness played an even less significant role in the Holocaust tragedy than the role that JWs play in any part of current societal goings-on. But-for being the butt of a few comedians jokes here and there, the JWs would receive virtually no mention outside articles about the Holocaust.
-Jerry Jones
 
 
 
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Since the end of World War II, leaders of the Jehovah's Witness movement in both Germany and elsewhere have steadfastly argued that Witnesses were united in their opposition to Nazism and did not collude with the Third Reich. Documents have been uncovered, however, that prove otherwise. Using materials from Witness archives, the U.S. State Department, Nazi files, and other sources, M. James Penton demonstrates that while many ordinary German Witnesses were brave in their opposition to Nazism, their leaders were quite prepared to support the Hitler government.
 
Penton begins his study with a close reading of the "Declaration of Facts" released by the Witnesses at a Berlin convention in June 1933. Witness leaders have called the document a protest against Nazi persecution, however closer examination shows it contained bitter attacks on Great Britain and the United States – jointly referred to as "the greatest and most oppressive empire on earth" – the League of Nations, big business, and above all, Jews, who are referred to as "the representatives of Satan the Devil."
 
It was later, in 1933 – when the Nazis would not accept Witness blandishments – that leader J.F. Rutherford called on Witnesses to seek martyrdom by carrying on a campaign of passive resistance. Many ultimately died in prisons and concentration camps, and postwar Witness leaders have attempted to use this fact to assert that Jehovah's Witnesses stood consistently against Nazism.
 
Drawing on his own Witness background and years of research on Witness history, Penton separates fact from fiction during this dark period.

About the Author
M. James Penton is a professor emeritus in the Department of History at the University of Lethbridge.
 
Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Third Reich: Sectarian Politics Under ...
Jehovahs Witnesses and the Third Reich: Sectarian Politics Under Persecution Buy this book and support this site! Click here.
www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/
 
 
 
http://www.bible.ca/jw-penton-3rdreich.htm
 
Can we trust The Watchtower's explanation
about their relations to Hitler?
1934 Yearbook:  Watchtower agrees with 'Principles advocated by German [Nazi] government'
 
http://www.randytv.com/Hitler/watchtower_hitler.htm Go here mega info on the Watchtower and the Nazis
 
http://www.bible.ca/jw-penton-3rdreich.htm
 
You can call the Christian members of the armed forces hypocrites for killing,but there are plenty of COs from catholic, protestant or other backgrounds, this isn't unique to JWs.
 
Jehovah's Witnesses don't go to war,they just let everybody else fight for THEIR FREEDOMS.

 
Jehovah's Witnesses and WW 2 Nazi 'persecution'
 
For the record it is true that Jehovah's Witnesses will not fight for their country and they didn't fight 'against' Hitler either.They were interned in Nazi concentration camps that were then liberated by young allied men who died to set them free.
Note:JW's didn't support the Allies either and despise the same governments that protect their freedoms.
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/135104.html?success=1#lastpost
 
If "persecution" during the Nazi era proves that a religion is true, then the Jews must really be the true religion.
 
Jehovah's Witnesses LOSE a court case for spewing hate
 
 
No place for fighting words - Sunday, January 28, 2007 The Missoulian, MT - Especially noteworthy, at least in regard,is a Supreme Court case involving a Jehovah's Witness named Walter Chaplinsky.
 Chaplinsky was foisting religious literature on ungrateful pedestrians in Rochester, N.H., one busy Saturday afternoon. People complained to police, who explained that Chaplinsky had a constitutional right to proselytize.

As he persisted, however, one thing led to another, and an uproar ensued. A policeman tried to escort Chaplinsky away, not to arrest him but to diffuse the situation.

 Chaplinsky turned to the arriving town marshal and said, “You are a God-damned racketeer a damned fascist - and the whole government of Rochester are fascists or agents of fascists.” He spewed this venom, by the way, in 1942, when millions of Americans were busy fighting and dying in a war against fascists.

A local jury convicted Chaplinsky of violating a New Hampshire law barring hateful, offensive speech. Claiming he had a First Amendment right to curse the cop, Chaplinsky took his case to the U.S. Supreme Court.
 
He lost.
 
 The Supreme Court said that the First Amendment doesn't protect “fighting words.” “These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous and the insulting or ‘fighting words' - those which, by their very utterance, inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace Such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality.”
 
There you have it a Supreme Court ruling that the Jehovah's Witnesses LOST
 
 Background and comment on the Jehovah Witness Walter Chaplinsky incident.

Danny Haszard comment to above--He (the Jehovah's Witness) spewed this venom, by the way, in 1942, when millions of Americans were busy fighting and dying in a war against WW2 fascists.

That's right and these brave American allied men and women died to save and rescue the Jehovah's Witnesses who were interned in the WW2 Nazi concentration camps.(They were in the camps,for their leader anti-Semite Joseph Rutherford had double crossed Hitler.)
 
 
 
Several articles are comment enabled
 
 
Traveling exhibit at URI explores Nazi persecution of gays
Danbury News Times, CT - 26 minutes ago
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Traveling exhibit at URI explores Nazi persecution of gays
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Traveling exhibit at URI explores Nazi persecution of gays
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Jerry Jones wrote on May 22, 2008 2:50 PM:
" Why is it mandatory that every Holocaust related article mention that "Jehovah's Witnesses" were also persecuted by the Nazis? The Nazis killed or persecuted "everyone" who did not believe and practice as they did, so the list of Nazi victim groups is endless.

Approximately 6,000,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Nazis, and even many more millions of Jews suffered lesser "persecution". Approximately 5,000,000 "other" persons were slaughtered. Even more MILLIONS were persecuted, but not murdered.

Compare those "millions" of persons with the Jehovah's Witnesses. There were only 6000 JWs in Germany during that time period, and while many of those 6000 German JWs were arrested, only 250 lost their lives, and the majority of those 250 JWs died from any number of causes other than having been executed.

Those JW deaths are tragic. But, that is not the point. The point is why does every single Holocaust article lump the JWs into the mix as if they were a significant part of the Holocaust story?

In fact, during that time period, there were more Jehovah's Witnesses arrested and jailed in the United States than in Germany. In fact, from 1941 until 1945, approximately 4500 American Jehovah's Witnesses chose to go to prison rather than serve in the Military and go fight against those same Nazis who were committing those atrocities. Roughly 3000 of those 4500 American JWs were even offered "conscientious objector" status, in which they were offered "non-combatant" work as a substitute, but 95% of those JWs even refused to help out that much.

In fact, it is an insult to mention Jehovah's Witnesses alongside Holocaust victims such as the Jewish people, given that today's Jehovah's Witnesses view the Jews much as did the Nazis back in the 1930s and 1940s.

The WatchTower Society teaches its own version of "replacement theology", which says that GOD rejected the Jews as His "chosen people", and replaced them with the "Jehovah's Witnesses" of the WatchTower Society.

In fact, the title "Jehovah's Witnesses" was originally applied to the Jews by the Prophet Isaiah, and is even quoted on the wall at the entrance to the Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C.

Even before the Nazis started their wholesale victimization of the Jewish people, The WatchTower Society, in 1931, started calling its own members "Jehovah's Witnesses" in its' attempt to steal that biblical designation away from the Jewish people.

The WatchTower Society even teaches that all of the Bible's promises of restoration for the Jewish people now belong to the followers of the
WatchTower Society.

These are the reasons why JWs have spent millions of dollars and tens of thousands of man-hours making certain that only 250 JWs are mentioned in every Holocaust news article. It is crucial to WatchTower "replacement theology" that any biblically prophetic significance resulting from the Holocaust tragedy is attributable not only to the Jews, but also to themselves. "