from Illume, June 26, 2011
In an interview with The Guardian newspaper, Prince - who has been a Jehovah's Witnesses since 2001 - said: “We can't do what we want to do all the time. ...
Prince respects the “order” of Islamic countries...
The 'Purple Rain' singer believes Middle Eastern
countries that dictate what their citizens can do and wear
cannot just be dismissed as oppressive and wrong. In an
interview with The Guardian newspaper, Prince - who has been
a Jehovah's Witnesses since 2001 - said: “We can't do what
we want to do all the time. If you don't have boundaries,
what then? “It's fun being in Islamic countries, to know
there's only one religion. There's order. You wear a burqa.
There's no choice. People are happy with that.”
When asked what he would say to Muslim women who are unhappy to be forced to wear burqas - which cover the wearer's entire body apart from their eyes - he replied: “There are people who are unhappy with everything. There's a dark side to everything. I don't want to get up on a soapbox. My view of the world, you can debate that forever.”
The Knowledgerush site says this about the symbol Prince uses:
Prince and his relationship with his own name
He was born June 7, 1958, and given the name Prince Rogers Nelson after the Prince Rogers Trio, his father's jazz band. As a boy, he was called Skipper, but he recorded under the name Prince. On his 35th birthday, June 7, 1993, he said he would no longer answer to the name Prince and would hence be known by an unpronounceable glyph. On December 31, 1999 he reclaimed the name Prince, although, typically, he did not announce the reclamation until some time later.
He had refused to use the name Prince while publishing rights remained with his old record company Warner Brothers. He said he felt like he was their slave. He did not want to advertise for that company, so he didn't use the name. As soon as they were out of the picture, the name was back.
By that time, he was also known as The Artist, short for The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (as he was anointed by a British journalist) or even the acronym TAFKAP. People loved to talk about it, some were amused, some were annoyed. Whatever else it was, it was deft publicity that kept his name and career alive separate from his legal entanglements with his record company. Other names used as 'pronunciation' for the glyph were The Symbol and Love Symbol. MTV, which had aired his videos and contributed to Prince's fame, did not embrace the glyph, however; in a humorous fashion, they took to playing a sound effect resembling a puff of hot air whenever his name was mentioned on the music video channel.
Prince's management company made an image file of it available for newspapers and magazines to use in referring to him.
The New York Times reported in concert coverage in 1994:
- Since Prince has changed his name to an unpronounceable glyph, tickets for his two-night stand at the Palladium were billed as "Art. Frmly Knwn as Prince." Calling for encores, the crowd chanted "We want" followed by two high whoops.
From Prince's official announcement reclaiming his name: "On Dec. 31, 1999, my publishing contract with Warner-Chappell expired, thus emancipating the name I was given before birth 'Prince' from all long-term restrictive documents. I will now go back to using my name instead of the symbol I adopted to free myself from all undesirable relationships."
A common nickname for Prince is the Minneapolis Midget, referring to both his place of origin and height.
In 1994, Prince released the movie 3 Chains o' Gold, which helped explain the album's plot. At the end, a monologue explained the origin of the symbol:
Upon the seventh day of the sixth month, nineteen hundred and ninety-three, marking the beginning and ending of cycles of creation, Prince, reaching the balance of thirty-five years, put into practice the precepts of perfection: Voicing bliss through the freedom of being one's self; incarnating the New Power Generation into the close of the six periods of involution, giving birth upon himself to regenerate his name as -- for in the dawn, all will require no speakable name to differentiate the ineffable one that shall remain.
Prince.org (An online Fan community) comments:
What's with the name changes?
On June 7th, 1993 (his 35th birthday), Prince announced that he would change his name to an unpronounceable symbol. The glyph incorporates the male and female signs along with the alchemy symbol for soapstone. (emphasis mine)
The usual ASCII representation of the symbol is:
O ( + >
That's a capital "o," open parenthesis, plus sign, and greater-than sign.
However, on May 16th, 2000 Prince announced that he would resume using his former name, because his final contract with Time Warner (i.e., his publishing contract with Warner-Chappel) had expired. It seems that he will continue to use the symbol as a logo, however.
Danny Haszard says,
Back in 1990 before he became JW (baptized 1991?) It was still one year before my disfellowshiping in 1992 and I would not buy a Prince album, even after I was dfed because I was afraid of that "occult' symbol it was spooky to any dub looks like a pagan Egyptian hieroglyphic.
If my 1960-70 JW dad growing up saw that album cover symbol in the house he would take it outside and burn it and absolutely have a Judicial Committee meeting over it big time. In 2010 Prince, as a dedicated baptized Jehovah's Witness still uses ancient pagan symbols incorporated into his style.
What other Jehovah's Witness would be allowed to do that? Shades of Michael Jackson!
20TEN – Prince from The Adamo Opinion July 23, 2010
If, like us, your childhood dream was to become (or date) a Prince Girl, you probably watched excitedly while Vanity shimmied in her lacy boudoir undergarments or Apollonia tugged on Prince's heart-strings during Purple Rain. The Artist was notorious for hooking up with scorching hot, musically-inclined model-esque brunettes (with the exception of Kim Basinger) and making us all drool with desire (or jealousy). Curious to know who Prince deemed "the most beautiful girl in the world"? See who made our list of Top Ten Prince Girls.
10) Susanna Hoffs
Whether is was an urban legend concocted by savvy publicists or Prince was actually trying to squeeze his purple people eater into a Bangle, Prince trying to woo Susanna Hoffs with what would become a hit single for The Bangles would make any girl feel like she had an obligation to hit it. Especially when "he tells me in his bedroom voice, 'C'mon, honey. Let's go make some noise.'"
The rumor that Prince wrote "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World" for now ex-girlfriend, actress Vanessa Marcil, may not be true. He had so many beautiful ethnically ambiguous babes around him, deciding who was the "most beautiful" was probably not remotely possible. But, if the lady-killing artist asked Marcil to star in the music video of the same name, she must be something special. She even wore a Prince necklace while she was starring on General Hospital.
Married in 2001, Manuela Testolini met Prince when she was working for one of his charitable foundations--after the era when Prince was using his musical love gun to shower girls with his "Purple Rain." After a super secret Jehovah's Witness wedding and a mysterious marriage, Mani called it off with TAFKAP and the pair got divorced in 2006.
So, what is the charitable cherub doing post-Prince? Why, she's moved on from one potentially sex addicted musician to another--Eric Benet.
7) Nona Gaye
Only daughter of soulful seducer, Marvin Gaye, singer and actress Nona Gaye was apparently Prince's youthful bride-to-be. In what may have been the romantic delusions of a love-dumb teenager, Gaye has said that Prince told people he wanted to marry her and take care of her. Prince showed his love by inviting Gaye to one of his shows--where she got to witness the newly-placed diamond on now ex-wife Mayte's finger.
6) Kim Basinger
'80s blonde sex bomb, Kim Basinger, probably met her match in Prince Rogers Nelson--at least for the small amount of time they dated while she was playing Vicki Vale in Batman and he was writing the soundtrack songs. Allegedly, while Prince and Basinger were recording "Scandalous," they had an incident with a pot of honey on the mixing board and most of Basinger's moans weren't acting.5) Carmen Electra
While dating Prince, the voluptuous brunette Tara Patrick was both christened with what would effectively become her nom de célébrité, Carmen Electra. She then went on to record an awful Prince-produced rap album. Apparently, Prince making her famous wasn't enough for Electra to refrain from dissing the Purple One's bedroom prowess.
Not that this is a game of he said/she said, but we'd have to believe someone who dated almost every hot chick in the '80s was better in bed than someone Dennis Rodman married in a state of intoxication.
Mayte, Prince's first wife, was the world's youngest professional belly dancer at age eight, and for a while, played up like she was an Egyptian princess on Prince's album, Love Symbol. Just like many of Prince's girls, Mayte eventually made a not-very-commercially successful album in 1995 called Child of the Sun. Three years into their marriage, it was mysteriously annulled with Mayte running from pop's tiniest sex-fiend to rock's well-endowed sex monster, Tommy Lee.
3) Sheila E.
Without argument, drummer and singer Sheila E. was the most musically talented Prince Girl. Prince met Sheila at a concert in 1978 where she was performing with her father, percussionist Pete Escovedo. Sheila E. would go on to tour with Prince, playing his shows and opening for him, as well as recording her album The Glamorous Life with a the hit song of the same name. Yeah, they dated, but the pair has been able to keep their relationship shockingly classy and professional--despite Prince's sticky fingers during their courtship.
Denise Matthews, or Vanity 6 lead singer, was one of Prince's first half-naked poppets with the Prince-created hit, "Nasty Girl." Vanity was so named because Prince said he saw his female reflection in her. Now an evangelical born-again Christian, Matthews has cut off her all her music industry ties (and royalties) and lives in deep regret of her life as Vanity, even going so far as naming her new autobiography, Blame It On Vanity.
And the number one Prince girl is ...1) Apollonia
Probably the most famous Prince Girl thanks to both her appearance in his movie, Purple Rain, and her devastatingly gorgeous good looks, Apollonia Kotero became typified as the classic Prince Girl: mixed heritage, long limbs, perfect face, and a bod made for risque lingerie. Probably to her benefit, Apollonia didn't stick around with Prince for too long after Purple Rain was made. She went on to play a role on a television show called Falcon Crest, successfully playing--you guessed it-- a pop star named Apollonia.
from L.A. Weekly
Wednesday, January 5, 2011
Tens or even hundreds of thousands of JW kids 'engaged to be married' have been DFed or publicly reproved for this 'loose conduct' I know a dozen personally. I wasn't even allowed to fondle tits, when getting married in two weeks anyway.
SQUIRM WATCHTOWER WE WILL RUB YOUR NOSE IN IT
I mean look at where her hand is. She's literally masturbating
Posted by The G on November 8, 2010 under The G Spot
I know a lot of Prince fans read my site, so these posters are 4 u. I’m also going to say what a lot of those same fans have been thinking for a long time but have been afraid to admit. I’ve seen Prince in concert no less than 50 times and he’s amazing every time. I’ve been seeing clips of his latest tour on line and I have to say, to me it looks like Prince and it sounds like Prince, but it feels like a cheap Prince imitator playing those songs. His “Vegas-style” interpretations of his hit songs are so tired! Because of his religious convictions, he has wiped away any implications of “dirty” lyrics from his act (for example, instead of “Sexuality is all you’ll ever need,” he sings “Spirituality is all you’ll ever need.”) I am very happy that he pretends to have found Jehovah and all that and I even think it’s great that he has moved on from playing his “nasty” songs in concert, but a man who made millions of dollars humping the stage, wearing high heels and singing about ‘wanting to fuck the taste out of your mouth’ is trying to pretend his past never existed! Is Prince going to give back all the royalties he made from the songs “Do Me, Baby,” “Head” and ”Gett Off?” I don’t think so. Not acceptable, Prince.
He went from declaring “I’m never going to play my hits again” to embarking on countless “hits tours.” He announced he’d never play the song “1999″ again after that year passed and now it’s a staple each night. He’s announced so many projects that never see the light of day because he either loses interest or doesn’t pay the people that help him to execute his plans. Some examples are “Crystal Ball II,” a set of unreleased outtakes he even asked fans to help with in selecting the final tracklist; “Roadhouse Garden,” a collection on unreleased songs he recorded with The Revolution; a 7 CD set of samples and loops that could be used any way the purchaser would like; and I could go on. A big tenet in his religion is to not utilize idols or symbols. Therefore he has completely stopped signing autographs (not that he was ever gracious about that act previously) for fans but yet he still wears that symbol all over his clothing, uses it on art work for his albums and even has a gold and diamond encrusted necklace bearing the symbol. Would Jehovah really approve of those actions?
In the early 2000′s when Prince had pretty much fallen off the map, he gave his die-hard fans all kinds of perks like pre-sale concert tickets, soundcheck access and unreleased tracks from his “vintage” period. Then he was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and was placed atop the world stage again and he sued fan sites for using his image and is now charging upwards of $500 to get good seats at his concerts. Again, very un-Jehovah-like, according2g. I’ll be skipping this series of shows because it saddens me to see a person that looks like Prince go through the motions for cash. If you’ve never seen Prince before, you’ll probably see one of the best concerts you’ve ever been to, but for the people that supported him when the rest of the world thought he was a joke, it feels like the joke was on us this whole time. I’ve always likened being a die-hard Prince fan to being in a bad relationship because he’ll treat his fans like shit and they’ll come back every time. I finally feel that I don’t think I am going to come back this time.
His last decade worth of albums have gotten progressively more embarrassing to listen to (see songs like “Lion of Judah,” and the direct Jimi Hendrix rip off “Dreamer”) and his latest effort “20Ten” which ironically sounds the most like the record the fans have been waiting decades for, is probably my least favorite album he’s ever made. If you are a “new” Prince fan, don’t bother with anything he’s done post 1998. Get the songs that have the ‘bad’ words in them. Not because they are bad or naughty, but because those are the words of a man who pushed the envelope. Those are the words of a man who was sick of the styles that currently existed so he created new ones. They were funky then and they are funky now. Those tracks have and will continue to stand the test of time. Post 1998 Prince is a watered down, pale imitation of a man who went from creating sounds to following trends! The man that once sang “Jack U Off” wearing a trench coat and bikini briefs is now singing about a “Future Baby Mama” and wearing platform tennis shoes! Horrid!
Ironically, Prince ordered the removal of YouTube clips of his cover of Radiohead’s “Creep,” and Radiohead demanded the clips be put back up because it’s THEIR song to make such a decision about. Did they not hear that he massacred the lyrics of the song? He also similarly massacred the lyrics of Fleetwood Mac’s “The Chain” and “Never Going Back Again,” infusing them with his cruddy religious jargon. Will someone please sue Prince for unlawfully fucking up great songs? Would a lawsuit of that nature drive him insane to the point of cursing again on stage? Doubtful. The one thing I am really sad to miss on these upcoming shows is the fact that the entire venue will be taking pictures at the concert and not even a control freak like Prince can do a thing to stop it. The photos will be posted on line and videos will surface from every angle. It’s going to drive him insane! But that’s what people do at concerts in this country, so Welcome 2 America, Prince!
That's the saddest thing of all - Prince lost his mojo by being lame and getting scared of death and dying.
The Popstar Prince of Daftness
Thursday November 4, 2010 by Anna Pukas SOURCE
HE'S become a door-knocking Jehovah's Witness who paints all his rooms purple and wears high heels. So let's hope the X Factor finalists who he's set to star with don't turn out like him.
Forget the cast-iron
contracts, the manipulation of our emotions and the total
control he exerts over every aspect of his vast and growing
empire in the manner of a latter day Kubla Khan. For
incontrovertible proof of the power of Simon Cowell we need only
look ahead to December and the final of The X Factor.
It was reported yesterday that Cowell has lined up Prince as the headline guest star. If the diminutive rock enigma does indeed grace The X Factor stage in seven weeks’ time it will be a true testament to Cowell’s uncommon powers of persuasion in bringing the famously eccentric superstar together with what he professes to despise most about the music industry.
It was Prince, after all, who appeared in
public with “slave” scrawled on his face to protest about what
he saw as the unreasonable demands of his record company and the
submission of creativity to the corporate creed. Yet the music
business does not get more corporate than The X Factor with its
More recently Prince bemoaned the derivative character of the current music scene. “All this Eighties dance revival stuff. All so plain, so simple, so obvious. The same old synthesisers, the same old chords.” Yet there is no bigger platform for safe music, no place less experimental than the Saturday night talent show broadcast at peak viewing time.
But then Prince has always been a mass of intrigue and contradictions. He has released records with sexually explicit lyrics, even touching on the ultimate taboo of incest, yet says he is a born-again prude since becoming a Jehovah’s Witness. Not only does he claim to have been celibate for a decade but he has also been known to visit lap-dancing clubs and offer the girls double their night’s wages if they stop working.
His singing voice is high but his speaking voice is a manly baritone. Now 52 he has racked up nearly 30 years of global superstardom and umpteen awards and appears on Time magazine’s most influential people list. Yet apart from a brief period of residence in Los Angeles four years ago he prefers to live in Minneapolis, his home town in the unpretentious American Mid West.
He used to throw after-show parties which were open to anyone who was on the mailing list of his fan club, yet he has given only three interviews in the past 10 years and is notoriously unforthcoming about his past or personal life. We know little about his two marriages, except that both ended in divorce – the first in the most tragic circumstances after the death of his son in 1997. Baby Gregory was born with Pfeiffer’s syndrome, a condition in which the bones of the skull fuse together and lived only for a week.
Even what we see of Prince the public persona is subject to conjecture. Is he black or mixed race? Is he gay or merely camp? His unusual Christian name is the one his parents gave him but he even dispensed with that for a period in favour of a squiggle roughly resembling the male and female symbols woven together. This meant hapless announcers were forced to refer to him by the clumsy soubriquet “the artist formerly known as Prince”. (The less reverential shortened it to TAFKAP.)
Paisley Park, his home and studio complex in Minneapolis, is awash with purple, his signature colour. Access is strictly limited to those in his inner circle. Tape recorders and cameras are banned and he is not too comfortable with notebooks either, yet Prince is not above carrying out his religious obligations by going door to door with copies of The Watchtower. He has the diva’s self-absorption and apparent indifference to anything outside his art. Yet his mind snaps into action like a steel trap when discussing ticket sales or the bottom line.
In the Nineties he pioneered the releasing of music via the internet, selling CDs from his own website in 1998 and via a download shop as early as 2001. Now he declares the internet is “done for” and says he prefers to communicate face to face with actual human beings. He has shut down his websites and you will not find any of Prince’s music on YouTube or iTunes.
“The internet is over,” he says. “I do not need to discuss my opinions with the whole world. I do not learn anything if I sit in front of a flat screen. I only learn from real people.”
As recently as July Prince told an interviewer, “I’m not part of the music industry any more.” Yet when he flies over to Britain to perform in The X Factor he will be steeped in that bread-and-butter activity of the music business, touring. So what is the real story of Prince? First he is an authentic musical prodigy who can play 25 instruments. Born in June 1958, his father John Nelson was a pianist and songwriter while his Italian-American mother Mattie was a singer. His father named him Prince Rogers after his jazz band, the Prince Roger Trio. John and Mattie split up a few years later and Prince went to live with his father. By the age of five he was touring with him. John Nelson was a Seventh Day Adventist which means he took a dim view when he caught his 12-year-old son in bed with a girl and threw him out. By then young Prince was already musically active in school bands and was signed up by Warner Brothers straight out of high school.
He wrote and sang all the songs and played all the instruments on his debut album For You but the big breakthrough came in 1982 with the album 1999, which sold three million copies. Two years later Purple Rain sold 13 million copies and made him an international star. The single When Doves Cry stayed at Number 1 for six weeks.
Second Prince is and always has been genuinely odd, as well as blessed with remarkable self-belief. Purple Rain was actually the soundtrack to a self-aggrandising film based on his life when he was still a relative newcomer to fame.
The squiggle years began in 1993 on June 7, his birthday. Prince announced he was shedding his name because his record label had divested him of his identity “in perpetuity”. It took him another three years to break away and form his own label, New Power Generation. Throughout the Eighties and early Nineties the diminutive star (he is only 5ft 2in) was linked to a string of glamorous women, including the actresses Kim Basinger and Sherilyn Fenn and the Scottish singer Sheena Easton.
But on Valentine’s Day 1996 he married Mayte Garcia, one of his backing group. However the marriage could not withstand the trauma of their baby’s death. Prince threw himself into touring while Mayte retreated to Minneapolis and the couple divorced in 1999. His next marriage in 2001 was to a Mayte lookalike named Manuela Testolini who worked for Prince’s charity Love4OneAnother. Five years later that was over too.
The guitarist Larry Graham, former bass player with Sly And The Family Stone, is credited with introducing Prince to the Jehovah’s Witness faith.
Securing Prince’s services for The X Factor is undoubtedly another feather in Simon Cowell’s cap. He had just better not bring a notebook with him.
But why, Prince, why Larry Graham? You his bitch? All to cost you your great style?
The Religious Affiliation with Pop Singer Prince (Dec. 19, 2005)
Good article with lots of links and resources about Prince's life and his introduction into the Jehovah's Witnesses.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY, PRINCE. RETURN TO THE DARK SIDE.
The Badness of the Internet
and Other Foolish Statements
from Quitegeist July 26, 2010
Also released that week, free with copies of the Daily Mirror, was Prince’s new album 20Ten, accompanied by an interview with His Royal Badness in which he declared “The internet is completely over” and “All these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers”. To celebrate the release of the legendary sex-midget’s (probably shit) new album, Quitegeist has prepared a few Prince facts, as an excuse to show another picture of him looking ridiculous.
- In 1987, despite half a million copies having already been pressed, Prince insisted his record company recall his latest CD ‘The Black Album’ after he had a spiritual epiphany that it was evil.
- In 2001 Prince became a Jehovah’s Witness. “It’s like Morpheus and Neo in The Matrix”, he explained.
- Prince has needed double hip replacement since 2005 but it is against his Jehovah’s Witness faith to have the surgery. His condition has been worsened because he will only wear high heel shoes.
When heroes get religion
I was upset when Anne Rice found God, and Beck turned out to be a Scientologist. What is it about their faith that puts me off?